Richard is excited about becoming a father for the second time, but not to witnessing the birth. His guest is, like him, a son of teachers and has a 2:1 degree in history and grew up in a town that begins with the letters Che, it’s Joe Thomas. Thomas shows Herring what his life might have been if only he’d been in a hit show, whereas Herring serves as a dire warning for where Thomas could end up if things go wrong for him. They chat about how Joe nearly didn’t accept the Inbetweeners Job, a radical possible change of direction for the third Inbetweeners movie, whether Jess the cat has an official role in Postman Pat, the buildings and dead businesses of Chelmsford, why you should watch narrative drama in the correct order, the optimum number of Inbetweeners to appear in a non-Inbetweener project and get through a fair few questions from the new Emergency Questions book.