Rich is disgusted to be back in filthy London and wondering if a man performs an act of extreme slapstick and no one is around to see it, will it still be funny. Spoiler alert - yes it is. His guest is a comedian who proves that it’s possible to be wise, sane and still funny, Katherine Ryan. They discuss their shared and slightly disappointingly vanilla DNA heritage, how to plan a city, wanting to marry Adam Sandler, if Jimmy Carr has time to spend his money, why comedians want to be taken seriously when being funny is much harder and better, things that you abhorred as a child but you like now, catching out cheating partners, why anyone would get married and how to be happy in life.