Richard is at the Manchester Podcast Festival and reveals a surprising bit of his father's Mancunian history. His guest is recipient of the British Empire Medal, Janice Connolly aka Barbara Nice. They chat about playing tambourine in a punk band, being discovered by Peter Kay, Simon Cowell's sense of humour and how Janice is the original Fleabag. Plus her work in theatre and why Birmingham isn't that bad (at least compared to Stockport). And a staggering denouement that you might want to check out on video.